Building In The Countryside?

[satsuma]

1 hour ago, nigooner said:

Quite the u-turn in advice from Saturday, from walking away to now entering into contract.

Read it again and put your specks on this time. Walk away if its not right, put in planning to get it right.

[getdoon_weebobby]

Looking at a site OPP granted Dec-17

FPP application submitted 26.08.20

FPP granted 05.01.21 (developers generic 4 bed house)

Negotiating a price with owner of land subject to getting approval for his generic build to be further back in the infill site which we will submit at our expense(£866)

if this all worked out we would then submit our own building plans say by year end with our own architect in the further back position in the site.

am I correct in thinking that all these submissions / approvals / building foundations would need to be done by Dec-22 (five years from original OPP granted?)

thanks !

[nigooner]

23 hours ago, getdoon_weebobby said:

Looking at a site OPP granted Dec-17

FPP application submitted 26.08.20

FPP granted 05.01.21 (developers generic 4 bed house)

Negotiating a price with owner of land subject to getting approval for his generic build to be further back in the infill site which we will submit at our expense(£866)

if this all worked out we would then submit our own building plans say by year end with our own architect in the further back position in the site.

am I correct in thinking that all these submissions / approvals / building foundations would need to be done by Dec-22 (five years from original OPP granted?)

thanks !

If it’s a new full planning application you’re submitting you’ll have 5 years from the date of approval.

[satsuma]

On 16/05/2021 at 22:27, getdoon_weebobby said:

Looking at a site OPP granted Dec-17

FPP application submitted 26.08.20

FPP granted 05.01.21 (developers generic 4 bed house)

Negotiating a price with owner of land subject to getting approval for his generic build to be further back in the infill site which we will submit at our expense(£866)

if this all worked out we would then submit our own building plans say by year end with our own architect in the further back position in the site.

am I correct in thinking that all these submissions / approvals / building foundations would need to be done by Dec-22 (five years from original OPP granted?)

thanks !

I think is a shorter period from the time of FPP, 2 or 3 years, call the planning office and ask them. Also, if you put the foundation’s in it secures the planning, usually people get building control to inspect the concrete to secure the planning. I think you should get your own plans done for sure.

[BelfastVI]

On 16/05/2021 at 22:27, getdoon_weebobby said:

Looking at a site OPP granted Dec-17

FPP application submitted 26.08.20

FPP granted 05.01.21 (developers generic 4 bed house)

Negotiating a price with owner of land subject to getting approval for his generic build to be further back in the infill site which we will submit at our expense(£866)

if this all worked out we would then submit our own building plans say by year end with our own architect in the further back position in the site.

am I correct in thinking that all these submissions / approvals / building foundations would need to be done by Dec-22 (five years from original OPP granted?)

thanks !

The first condition on your outline approval usually gives the time scale. It normally says that you must apply for Reserved Matters within 5 years. It looks like that has happened and been approved, albeit it for a house you don't want. That new Jan 21 Full Approval will again, in the first condition give a timescale for legal commencement, normally two years.

If you are to apply for a different house type it will not be under the old Outline but will be a new Full, stand alone, planning application. Obviously the precedent has been set under the current approval and as long as your scale, massing and ridge heights are not out of sync you should be ok.

Your only rick is if your application is slow and is drifting towards the expiry date of the current approval. At that stage you would be advised to commence the approved house, making sure you perform all the pre-commencement conditions such as sight lines and perhaps submitting a landscape plan for approval.

[getdoon_weebobby]

If I paid to resubmit the developers house plans and I added a garage to the application. Let’s say those plans were approved BUT I ran out of time to get my own design planned and approved. Would the foundations of a garage be enough to secure planning ? That way I would have time to try and secure planning for our design but without committing to the foundations of the builders design.

[BelfastVI]

On 22/07/2021 at 00:35, getdoon_weebobby said:

If I paid to resubmit the developers house plans and I added a garage to the application. Let’s say those plans were approved BUT I ran out of time to get my own design planned and approved. Would the foundations of a garage be enough to secure planning ? That way I would have time to try and secure planning for our design but without committing to the foundations of the builders design.

Yes, if the garage is part of the approved planning permission. Provided you first comply with any pre-commencement conditions such as forming sightlines, submitting and obtaining approval of land scaping etc. Any clause that states "before commencement of.." needs to be sorted before you excavate the foundations.

You can then apply for a Commencement of Legal Development Certificate (may be slightly different wording, where Planning Service, for a fee will confirm that the Planning Approval has been legally commenced.

Edited July 23 by BelfastVI